222: Money Mindset for Pastors and Ministry Leaders, with Jon Sanders & Les Hughes of EntrePastors


What does it look like for pastors to earn an income in addition to their ministry role? And how do you make the transition out of vocational ministry into the marketplace?

In this episode, I’m joined by Jon Sanders and Les Hughes from EntrePastors, and they are passionate about helping pastors and other ministry leaders with their money mindset.


We talk about:

  • Why we struggle to charge for intangible services and skills

  • How money mindset can lead to burnout for pastors who pour out everything for others

  • How ministry skills can be transferred to the marketplace, whether it’s through a side gig or a post-ministry career

  • Practical ways ministry leaders can earn extra income to support their family


We also talk about how congregations can best support and encourage their pastors in their money mindset, and why this is a win/win for pastors AND their churches. I hope this conversation gives you a fresh perspective on earning income beyond a ministry role!


About Jon and Les:

Jon Sanders and Les Hughes are the co-founders of EntrePastors, and co-hosts of the EntrePastors podcast. Jon and Les have come together to empower pastors to maximize their God-given talents to take better care of their families and become better pastors in the process.


About EntrePastors:

EntrePastors helps pastors think, act, and thrive as prosperous entrepreneurs. Through podcasts, a membership community, and mastermind groups, EntrePastors provides the tools and support community to help pastors and others with a ministry background achieve financial and time freedom and escape the stressful paycheck to paycheck life that often accompanies vocational ministry.


The goal of EntrePastors is to blow up the model of the starving pastor and build a community of prosperous pastors who can provide well for their families and demonstrate generosity to others.


CLICK HERE for their free resource on money mindset!

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